wdm
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Post by wdm on Dec 15, 2004 17:14:55 GMT -5
I have a couple excape resistant big pans I leave the miscellaneous worms and crics in so they always have something to eat. I do hand feed them every day and place food for the insects in the pans. The girls don't seem to eat much lately tho, I'm guessing it because its winter time.
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Post by DaremoAlpha on Dec 15, 2004 19:51:57 GMT -5
I have an escape proof feeding dish for my dragon and the super worms managed to climb out of it too  so I just stick to not leaving them in the dish when he is not feeding. Any other food sources yea I leave them hehehe I had a hopper that slept with AWOL for two days and then just disappeared.....  |
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Post by wdm on Dec 15, 2004 20:47:05 GMT -5
so far a cat pan with striaght sides have kept everything in, I also put veggies in for the bugs to eat, so maybe they just aren't hungry enough to try to excape. My girls have a feeder goldfish I thought they would eat but it seems to have been made into a pet. It swims around them while they swim and soak So anyone else got a pet for there dragons???
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Post by rhannah on Feb 6, 2005 1:33:57 GMT -5
my lizards have both tried to eat fish but its like they are too slippery! they cant seem to get the fish into their mouths, its really funny to watch! sometimes ill take the lizards outside on the leash and turn over a big rock, they will go to town on the potato bugs and snails and anything else thats there. (this was the vets suggestion: bugs from the backyard provide the most variety and are naturally healthy and fed unlike pet-store bought bugs which arent fed usually) but i also always feed the bugs from the pet store lots of veggies and sometimes fruit too, the more variety the better.
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Post by RedDr4gon333 on Feb 6, 2005 2:46:42 GMT -5
rhannah, is that the best idea? I thought outside bugs are exposed to pesticides and other things that would be harmful for the dragon to eat.
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Post by phoenix79 on Feb 6, 2005 13:22:24 GMT -5
Actually, everything I've read said that It's ok to do. If the bugs were exposed to pesticides they would be dead, that's what pesticides do.
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Post by char on Feb 6, 2005 13:31:26 GMT -5
Actually, everything I've read said that It's ok to do. If the bugs were exposed to pesticides they would be dead, that's what pesticides do. I don't know where you read this but it's very untrue. I also think your vet is a little nutty for suggesting this. Not all pesticides kills all bugs and sometimes it takes a while for the pesticides to kill the bugs. You may be feeding insects to your wd that could have been exposed to these pesticides and therefore you could be harming your wd. I would strongly suggest you stop this practice ASAP. It's not safe and it's not healthy. Also never feed fireflies. These are HIGHLY toxic and will kill your reptiles. |
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Post by dragosmom on Feb 6, 2005 13:31:39 GMT -5
Besides pesticides, outdoor insects can be infected with internal and external parasites which can be transferred to your reptiles. If you are feeding from outdoor sources you be sure to have a fecal exam done at least once every year. Parasites, if left unchecked, can be severely damaging to the health of your herp.
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Post by rhannah on Feb 6, 2005 14:21:23 GMT -5
let me clarify: i do not ever use pesticides in my yard, partly for that exact reason. i really believe strongly in natural gardening, etc. in fact i rent a house and the landlord has gardeners who i dont even let into the backyard, its carefully controlled so that there are no chemical poisons anywhere near my beloved plants OR my WDs!! as for parasites i have never had any problems with this either, although my babies do get regular vet care to be sure they are as healthy as can be. i also have an alternative vet in case i need a second opinion about anything. they have both told me that i do a great job so i try not to worry about things too much. no sense giving myself an ulcer for a problem that is not there! i also let my big male climb the large camphor tree on warm summer days, with the harness on, closely supervised. he is as happy as can be just sitting on a branch a few feet up (i can always reach him). we are a very laid back family!
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char
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Post by char on Feb 6, 2005 17:03:29 GMT -5
Just be careful. Just because the pesticides are not in your back yard they could be in a neighbors yard or close by. Insects travel. I just hate to see your wd get sick someday because of pesticides. I've never seen anywhere where it suggests to give your reptiles insects caught from outside. I've only seen websites that say this should absolutely not be done.
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Post by MoMmYoF2DrAgOnS on Feb 6, 2005 20:02:30 GMT -5
I am almost positive that I read either somewhere here or on the WD mailing list that you should not overfeed your wd feeder fish due to the high levels of iodine in the fish. Feeder fish are good now and then but not very often... am I going crazy or did I read that somewhere?
The pet store here where I sometimes get my superworms call them "Mondo worms"? Anyone else run into this? It is so hard to understand and know what the heck all these worms are when different places call them different things. GRRR why they have to make it more difficult then it already is ???lol. Anyway, Puff has been on a bit of a superworm kick, she LOVES em. She refuses mealworms now, and occasionally refuses crickets, although today she ate about 10 lg. crickets on top of 2 supers. Baloo went a lil over a day with refusing food. So I gave him/her some appetie stimulant and today he/she ate about 10 sm-med crickets. (she does NOT care for mealies)
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Post by DaremoAlpha on Feb 13, 2005 11:06:23 GMT -5
Awol still eating everything I put in front of him except veggies.... and now also gets silk worms since I have found a source for getting them. Side note .... some pesticides are designed to kill off reproduction of insects so it is a slow poison but still in the system...  I cannot feed Awol stuff from outside around here all the trees in peoples yards are pine and the ground is very acidic so I am sure the insects and worms around here are not good enough for him. |
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Post by char on Feb 16, 2005 20:35:47 GMT -5
I am almost positive that I read either somewhere here or on the WD mailing list that you should not overfeed your wd feeder fish due to the high levels of iodine in the fish. Feeder fish are good now and then but not very often... am I going crazy or did I read that somewhere? It was on the WD mailing list that you read that. You're not going crazy. It's not Iodine like I had first thought. It's some enzyme in the carp family (goldfish, etc.) that can cause blindness in wds. You can give a meal weekly without adverse effects - or that's my understanding. |
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Post by Pooka on Feb 17, 2005 11:52:04 GMT -5
It was on the WD mailing list that you read that. You're not going crazy. It's not Iodine like I had first thought. It's some enzyme in the carp family (goldfish, etc.) that can cause blindness in wds. You can give a meal weekly without adverse effects - or that's my understanding. Sounds like the good old "varied diet" rule wins again. Feed'm a little bit of everything but not a lot of any one thing |
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so I just stick to not leaving them in the dish when he is not feeding.
